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RECAP: Warriors 114, Mavs 104 - Time to 'Step up'

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Top flight point guards are a must in this league

It's March Madness and the Warriors improved their chances by making it to the NBA versions of the big 'dance.'  The Warriors 'took it to the streets' last night.  If the Warriors were Omarion and Marques Houston, then the Mavs were those nameless kids with the overly spikey hair from the OC (why is it that they have to make the white kids have really spikey hair?).  Meaning?  Those suckas (Mavs) got served!

This game already had that playoff atmosphere to it, even without Dirk Nowitski to emotionally dismantle.  The teams went at each other in the second half with the lead barely extending beyond a few points; not only that but there were tons of highlight worthy plays that us Warrior fans were accustomed to seeing in last season's playoff series versus the Mavs.  From Azubuike's clutch jumpers towards the end of the game to Monta's slice and dicing into the paint like he was the "Miracle blades" -- as seen on TV! -- the Warriors made like Channing Tatum and had to 'step up' to the occasion.  

It wasn't all pretty; the narrative to this game pretty much followed the generic conventions of these horrible dance movies that we all privately go see (or rent) without telling anyone.  The Warriors looked a lot like the lead characters, ala, Channing Tatum, Julia Styles, Omarion and Marques Houston, and that new no name girl in Step Up 2: The Streetz! in that they were broken down early and in the end had to redeem themselves for whatever moral and ethical issue that they struggled from early on (you know, like not being able to hip-hop dance in public).  The Warriors found themselves in a familiar place, being down big early on only to battle back and claim their spot as a contender in the playoff hunt.  Now that's 'taking it to the streets!'

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Monta finds seams like he's a seamstress

It dawned upon me during the 4th quarter that the Warriors seem to have memory lapses or lapses in focus throughout the game. The team doesn't just struggle, its more like they forget what they are supposed to do. As Jim Barnett continuously suggested throughout the game and probably something that we all notice is that there is 'too much standing around.'  The offensive 'scene' is as if there was an accident on the freeway and all the cars nearly stop and drive slowly to see what's going on (which is everyone else watching Baron or Stephen Jackson throw it up with like 2 seconds left).  But in the 4th quarter with about 6 minutes left, you hear Nellie waving his arms and yelling loudly "CUT! CUT! CUT!"  At that moment, with all the Warriors standing around the 3 point line, finally Azubuike makes his move through the paint and people begin to rotate a bit, which ended up leading to an easy bucket.  Shooting threes maybe integral to the Warriors offense, but there needs to be motion on offense to get the defense on its heels or out of the grills of our best shooters.  It makes you wonder if the Warriors just forget to move, don't want to, or potentially have some ballhog-ish teammates.  

The only reason I say this is just for the ease the Warriors by which they scored last night when they dedicated themselves to cutting and passing.  Easy buckets were had by both Biedrins and Harrington in the post when the Warriors rotated the ball (quickly), able to get defenses a little off balance.  The Warriors got sloppy on offense (and not to mention defense, which I'll mention later) midway through the third, chucking threes and long twos with lots of time on the clock.  There was several painful to watch Stephen Jackson-and-Baron Davis-drain-the-clock-through-excessive-dribbling- leading-to-turnovers.  Granted, no team is perfect for all 48 minutes.   Its just extremely frustrating to see the complete opposite ends of the spectrum within the same game or even within the same quarter.  

Monta came up big time again last night pouring in 30 points on 50% shooting, dazzling us as usual.  He's come a LONG way since the beginning of the season where he only knew how to drive to the hoop in a straight line, getting at least 3 charge calls a night.  Throughout the season, Monta has apparently developed some handles, particularly a crossover to the lefthand, which has allowed him to shift directions and maneuver past his opponents instead of just barreling straight into them.  For the summer, I would love to see Monta really work on his handles some; coupled with his speed, better handles might really make those Allen Iverson comparisons legit as far as scoring goes.  

Azubuike came up huge again tonight.  Was anyone thrown off by his fist pumping twirl after he swished in a three late in the 4th?  It was shocking to see the emotional outburst that was further embodied by his mildly furrowed brow.  The Warriors desperately need his help off the bench both in scoring and spelling the starters during this stretch run.   The Warriors have suddenly become increasingly thin at the bench; they're going to continually need Azubuike's 15 and 7 every night.  

Biedrins:  What has happened to you?  You can't knock Biedrin's hustle on the boards.  You can see his length really come into play as he gobbled up rebounds from the Mavs even with three of them swarming him.  He got several offensive boards and was probably the only Warrior, at least in the second half, to attack to go to the basket after a missed shot, leading to a few nice putback dunks.  You can tell that Croshere has been mentoring Biedrins a bit given the ways that Biedrins extends his legs widely and even hangs a bit on the rim with those dunks now.  Biedrins' style on the court is finally matching his street clothes smoothness on the bench.  

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Bass doing his Amare Stoudemire impression, while Biedrins impersonates himself circa his rookie season

BUT, Brandon Bass just dominated him last night.  Biedrins 16 and 14 are nice, but not when the person matched up with you is putting up more, especially if Bass is just an average bench player at best.  Repeatedly in the 3rd and 4th quarter, the Mavs went to Bass who pummeled anyone guarding him (usually Biedrins), getting himself 12 free throw opportunities.  Perhaps Biedrins is still getting his sexyback, but Bass looked like Amare Stoudemire with better fundamentals.   At only 6'8 but a muscular 240, Bass made Biedrins' length practically negligible, taking him off the dribble or kissing shots off the glass from 10 feet out.  There was seriously nothing Biedrins could do to stop Bass en route to his new career high of 21 points.  Maybe its just undersized 4s that are the give him problems.  At this point, Biedrins is looking like a really poor one on one defender if Brandon Bass, et al are giving him this many problems.

Overall though, its nice to see the Warriors grind out this win against a very solid team with or without Dirk (and other Warrior-killer Jerry Stackhouse).   Good things happen when they attack the basket (36 free throw attempts) and forego the 3pt shot (a relatively low 21 attempts)!  Knowing the Warriors and hearing Don Nelson scream from the sidelines to cut, so loud it was super audible through the weak speakers on my Dynex television, lets hope the Warriors have been disciplined enough throughout the season to make smarter decisions on offense.  This win puts the Warriors in a better position -- lets hope they can keep it up against the playoff ready Spurs and Hornets!

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Although Monta is the obvious choice, I'm going to have to go with Azubuike.  Playing some heavy minutes tonight, Azubuike has played out of his mid-season slump and not a minute too soon.  The Warriors need his rebounding at the guard spots in addition to his shooting that we witnessed earlier in the season, especially off the bench as teams have begun to key in on the Warriors own 'big three.'  


(Photos by Rocky Widner/NBAE via Getty Images)

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Hated the wave
Do not do the wave while the warriors are shooting free throws!! I think buike missed a free throw because of it. We need every point we can get now on the free throw line. Who went to the game?!

This was like when we played the Jazz's second round of playoffs game 4 Sunday which was Mother's Day. I was at that game and the crowd sucked. I think all the mothers brought their kids and messed up the atmosphere that game.

I don't know about our fans anymore. Announcers from TNT and ESPN sometimes talk about how knowledgeable ours fans are. You can do the wave during a timeout or in between qtrs, just don't do it while we're playing the freakin game. We need to support the Dubs while we're up and while we're down.

Where was all the Defense chants and Let's go Warriors chants?!? Where's all the die-hard Warrior fans at? Why am I screamin at my TV at home?!!?

by ron113pnoy on Mar 31, 2008 12:25 PM PDT   0 recs

That was WEAK!
"The Wave" was a dumb idea.  It went around 3 times in the 200's then the lower bowl started doing it during Kelenna's damn free throws.  Not smart!  I have never seen "the wave" done at a basketball game before.  BTW, the crowd was loud when needed last night.  It was a packed house and the noise level was comparable at time to the playoffs and the end of the year run last season.  

by onetwocross on Mar 31, 2008 12:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I totally agree!!!
I refused to take part in that. Buike was trying to make his free throw for crying out loud!

I felt the atmosphere was terrible yesterday. It was so quiet that you could hear a pin drop.

by gswfanforlife on Mar 31, 2008 4:32 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow...
Now we're hating on fans?  The wave?!? Whats next?!?!?!?!

There was a time I took so much pride in telling people to check out GSoM... I told everyone including my family. The atmosphere at the Oracle was so hype, when I met people I told peeps to check out GSoM even before I told them my name!

As of late, when I plugged GSoM to new found friends and some from back in the days, there reply is "Whats up with that site? Everybody's a hater or complains about everything thats Golden State.

To cut it in short- I love the fellas who started this site out of the joy of lovin' Warriors basketball but blogging here just ain't the same. Before we made it to the playoffs last year this site was a great site to get Warriors information. I can understand head count is mad high on GSoM but it's gotten shady. Homies are right- all everyone does here is bitch...

As soon as the season ends, I plan on making less of an appearance on this site. Its just not fun anymore.

So keep on complaining about the wave, Warrior Girls, The fans, how our players aren't good enough and just about anything else that makes Warriors basketball grand... and I'll make sure I do the complete opposite.

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Correct me if I'm wrong...
but didn't you just post something below saying you were cancelling your season tix because of all the 'bandwagon fans' and higher prices?  That's no less of a complaint than anything in this post.  

For the most part this site is total love-fest, which great.  I love the positive attitude of warrior fans and GSoM'ers.  So what if some of us don't want to be associated with dispassionate LA fans that do the Wave instead of cheer the team and watch the game.  

by in for life on Mar 31, 2008 5:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah I saw
your response before it was deleted.  And I'm gonna overlook the part where you called me a mother F'er, but I don't know why you're so angry.  I've never seen anyone curse on here like that...  

I said nothing about you or anyone specifically...  I'm just saying the wave reminds me of weak fans in LA that care more about the wave than the game or the players.  I think Warrior fans are better than that and I want them to show it.  

I know as well as anyone how big a fan you are and how huge your contribution is to this site.  In fact, if it weren't for your artwork I probably wouldn't log on to see what kind of crazy stuff was coming out next.  I've looked at your page and even thought about buying some stuff so we would all be really bummed if you didn't participate here anymore.  

All that said, I still don't know why we have to like everything about gsw, or this site, or our fans, or...  Honesty = credibility.  

by in for life on Mar 31, 2008 6:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You know what...
man, I lost my cool- that was really unprofessional and embarrassing   on my part.  I'm sure Atma is gonna get at me with this being a family show and the guys have every right to be. With that in mind the thought of my Dad and cousins... shoot my nephew reading my remark is a slap in the face to W fans.

Honestly, I think I'm just being selfish. This site is a wonderful tool for anybody to voice there opinions. As of late I think I've just been letting some remarks bother me, but 2 a point where I should've just rubbed it off. Why am I mad?!? We won last night!

Man, I think I even read your post wrong, I'm still trying 2 figure out why the wave is such a wrong thing 2 do at games... shoot I do it in every sporting event. (I can't help it, esp. when I'm with the kids!) Everyone has a right 2 their opinions. Damn- I'm sorry for getting mad- We should be discussin' Warriors Basketball... not T.psd's anger management.

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 6:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi Tony
"I'm still trying 2 figure out why the wave is such a wrong thing 2 do at games"

It's probably because it's not part of the actual game. The hardcore fans are focused on many of the small details of the game, and respond by cheering or booing appropriately. Doing the wave implies that the fans aren't focused on the game, and ruins the atmosphere of the game.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 31, 2008 6:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks...
Now I wasn't at the game but so I can get a better understanding... how did the wave form? Did thunder start it? Was it started by a Ticket holder? Was it announced on the PA system?

I've taken part 2 many waves but not 1 in an actual Warriors game so of course I questioned it and got me in this situation. I've done a wave at Globetrotter games, A's games, Saber Cat games... disney on ice... the Wiggles show... I'm just trying to get a better understanding why it's not appropriate at W games? Before an of this came up, I had homies IMing me- "Damn son! You missed it we did a Wave at the Oracle!"

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 6:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't at the game either
I doubt it was started by Thunder or the PA guy. It was probably started by a small section and grew from there.

I think it's not appropriate because the Warriors are in the the playoff hunt right now, and we (the general fans) are supposed to be serious, focused, and supportive. Doing the wave sends the message that we aren't paying attention to the Warriors, and we're just here to hang out. I'm sure it's fun for the fans to be part of the wave, but I think it comes back to it not being "part of the game". It's kind of like talking on your cell phone at the movies. You're supposed to be at the movies to watch the movie, not talk on the phone.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 31, 2008 7:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony
Its mellow, I wasn't trying to get into a pissing match or question anyone as an individual.  

I guess I just assumed that because of the other comments on this page everyone knew about the wave.  IQ's description is perfect.  The've even been talking about it on KNBR today.    

I don't know if you've ever been to a sporting event in LA but when I was younger I went to a lot and for a lot of people up here the wave typifies all the reasons we like to consider ourselves better than them.  I've lived up here now for 25 years and can't remember the last time I saw one.  Its seen by a lot of people as a distraction from the team and the game...  

Whatever, this is all just a distraction from life that should be fun as long as it doesn't get personal.  

by in for life on Mar 31, 2008 7:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea man,
I guess you can say I ruined my own day fronting like a stooge and I'll admit that. I think a lotta harm was done today because I shoulda' been spending time drawing instead of eating my own word and acting like a female dog.  Let this be a lesson learned- blogging on the internet ain't no joke!

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 8:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right about that...
Its WAY too easy to type something you don't really mean without realizing it... I just realized I did that earlier over on the preview post.  I think I'll just read for a few days and not actually log in! haha...  For now, GO WARRIORS!  

by in for life on Mar 31, 2008 9:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony...
It was started during a timeout. That was my first game in a long time so I'm not 100% sure of what to call the sections, but it was in the upper bowl in the seats directly behind the basket the Mavs were trying to score on. I don't think you can be farther away than that section. I think it was an official timeout because it took awhile. They initially only got the wave going for a few sections, and booed every time it failed. It was still timeout at this point. Eventually, they got it going around, and it got around one full time. It was still timeout, but now Azubuike was heading towards the FT line. By the time it went around one more time, he was at the FT line ready to shoot. Then apparently the lower bowl saw the wave and joined in, and while he was shooting the first one it passed by. Then after he missed it died down. I'm mad at the wave because I am using it as a scapegoat for why Buke missed his first FT, because he was having a good night. I don't see anything wrong with doing it during the timeout because as some have said it is done when people are bored, and during that timeout I don't remember any entertainment on the floor. But it dissipated a bit late for my liking.

by belilaugh on Mar 31, 2008 7:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

WoW...!
I had no idea it was a number of waves... I thought it was just one! Hmmm... hopefully it isn't gonna be a trend... my last games the Clippers game. With all this wave talk I don't even wanna particpate in one... I'll save it for when Hanna Montana comes to town.

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 8:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Wave started in the 200's...
during a timeout (I think it was an officials TO) before Kelenna shot his first free throw in the 4th quarter.  The Wave broke a few times and some of the fans who noticed it was going on started to boo. This encouraged it to begin again.  It finally made it around a full revolution and then again.  Finally, before Kelenna stepped to the line, the lower bowl began their version and it crossed his line of site just before his first free throw.  I think the fans noticed this, but it did go around a second time before dying down.  Honestly, I thought it was dumb.  This is coming from the guy who still loves watching the big blowup-Thunder do headbutts and the old highlights of the Indian guy doing his variety of dances on the jumbotron.  However, I just didn't dig The Wave.

by onetwocross on Mar 31, 2008 10:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Indian Guy
Man that's my uncle. He's got mad dance moves! It's a travesty his dancing isn't on YouTube.

And inflatable Thunder is off the heazy!

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 31, 2008 10:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was...
at a game with a bunch of friends recently and we were laughing at the giant Thunder, and also laughing at ourselves because for some reason that damn giant Thunder never gets old!  haha  

by in for life on Mar 31, 2008 10:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish he was MY uncle.
I hope the rhythm runs in the family for your sake because that dude has moves upon moves upon many more moves.  One question you might be able to answer for me then.  I heard that was old footage from when the Warriors played in San Jose while the arena was being renovated.  Is that true?  It does look a little grainy to me and the suit is a little dated as well.

by onetwocross on Apr 1, 2008 1:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It was...
From last season... Somewhere at the end of the season...How could I forget?! Thats how I get down at weddings!

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony, we're gonna have to double-check this info.
I know they played the footage a bunch last year and a few times this year, but I have heard from a few people that they think it is old footage from back in the San Jose days.  Just curious I guess.  What I do know is that the black dude in the Carolina blue jumpsuit doing running man has worn that same outfit to the game twice.  The second time he was rockin a yellow "we believe" shirt under the jumpsuit jacket.  HAHAHA.  Talk about 15 minutes.

by onetwocross on Apr 1, 2008 5:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

lets make it happen!
HAHAHAHA of all things 2 e-mail the Dubz front office- its gonna be this HAHAHA! Let me do my investigation!

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Apr 1, 2008 9:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

saw the comment
and I think he was spot on. This is the first time I've ever heard of the association between the wave and douchebag LA fans. If I knew something that silly offended so many people, I'll keep it in mind and not do the damn wave next time.

by jay el on Mar 31, 2008 6:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Great Recap Potna! + Low IQ Fans
Love the thoughts. CLUTCH W. We got this!

Hash and I were at the game last night thanks to our friends at Comcast Sports (new flava!). Overall great crowd, but 2 major annoyances:

  • During the intros Hash and I were standing up cheering. This guy behind us taps us on our back and says "Can you sit down?" Are you kidding me? This ain't a library. This is the Roaracle!
  • I thought the wave from the crowd was fresh, but seriously a wave while Kelenna is shooting free throws? Way to distract our own player.
I hate to sound like a 12 year drought snob, but these new bandwagon We Believers and low IQ fans are really getting to me at the arena. Oh yeah thanks for helping drive up the cost of tix and filling Cohan's pocket with more green as he continues to look for ways to cut down costs!

by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 31, 2008 12:27 PM PDT   0 recs

hahaha...yah
I was telling my cousin about that. Usually, you are quiet when your players shoot free throws. But here are the fans yelling their lungs out while Buike was shooting FTs.

by lightz0ut on Mar 31, 2008 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

On other occasions
When the "knowledgeable" fans are there, they'll shush the crowd and it'll be quiet for the Warrior at the line.

Don't know what I think about those college nights though. I sit in a section close to them and they always seem to be chanting at the wrong times. They scream their lungs out in the first half and nothing after that. I would hate to be in sec 122 last row.

The only funny thing about the wave yesterday, was Al Harrington jumped off his seat and almost did the wave as well.

by gswfanforlife on Mar 31, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

To Second That
This whole "Make Your Free Throws PLEASE" crap NEEDS TO STOP

I don't know who these people are...but they just don't get it.  LET THE GUYS CONCENTRATE!

I'm all for being loud and cheering for your team...but really?  What's the point of saying that crap?  Not only is it dumb, but it doesn't help!


We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Mar 31, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah
i hate those dam bandwagon people, i use to go to 4 games a year than the warriors became good and i could barely afford anything. gosh the 200 level cost the same as the lower level only a couple years ago ugh! and dam how do they not understand you don't bother your team when they do anything, its like me driving in front of you and than hit you with high beams than distract you.
What you thought that I only played basketball? I AM A Golden State WARRIOR!

by 24k state fan since 87 on Mar 31, 2008 12:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

which is why...
I didn't renew my season tickets. With my wife not getting as much hours working and me juggling 3 jobs, the tickets became so expensive for me I decided to pass. It's a shame driving ticket prices is driving me away from my second home :-( oh well...

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 1:03 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

blah
i hope you didn't actually sit down when he asked you to. if i were you i would've questioned whether he was an actual fan or not or just some loser who got free tickets to the game from his workplace.

by jchao204 on Mar 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

u do realize
biedrins was rarely guarding bass. most of his damage was done against barnes.

by AJC3317 on Mar 31, 2008 12:30 PM PDT   0 recs

Barnes...
only played like 12 minutes.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Mar 31, 2008 1:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

12 minutes
and got 5 fouls doing so, POB challenges those kind of numbers

by Thoang77 on Mar 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

barnes
played 17, bass played 25. and most, if not all, of those 17 minutes he was out there he was guarding bass. hence my original statement, most of his damage was done against barnes

by AJC3317 on Mar 31, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well...
as long as you are using broad assumptions based on misleading stats - Barnes had a +10 and Bass had a -15 - so obviously Barnes dominated him.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Apr 1, 2008 12:15 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

we got a miracle
Monta's jumper seems to have come back. I hope it's for the remainder of the season. Not expecting him to shoot 70% or something, but if he can keep it around 50% then it's already alot of help for the Warriors.

 

by lightz0ut on Mar 31, 2008 12:30 PM PDT   0 recs

asdf
The wave was pretty tight, everyone in the upper bowl was doing it during the timeout and then the retarded lower bowl decided to do it right as Buike was shooting FT's. Pretty funny too how everytime a section would mess up the wave in the upper bowl everybody would start to boo, you would have thought they would have just commited a DFish flop.

by J Rich 4 MVP on Mar 31, 2008 12:38 PM PDT   0 recs

The Make Your Free Throws Pleeze..
is only chanted once and starts before any  Warrior Player attempts to shoot their free throws. It has worked about 90% of the time this year for all the games I have been at. It started last year in the 2007 playoffs because last season's Warrior FT shooting was horrible. This year's free throw shooting has imporoved tremendously compared to last year. FT% has improved then why continue with the chant? cuz its tradition and I dont believe in breaking tradition. Just like the day I became a Warrior fan because of Sleepy Floyd, I continued to support the Warriors til this day even after he got traded to the Rockets. Thats been my mind set and i aint ever gonna change my mentality. Is it really that much of a distraction with these make your free throw chants? I dont think so. I think when they are away, need to shoot their free throws and they have to deal with the opposing pounding thunder sticks is more distracting. If its being chanted while the player is actually shooting, then i agree with you that it is distracting. You can have your strong opinion about it that its dumb and worthless..and thats cool,you can think whatever the hell you want... but I doubt its gonna stop.
Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 31, 2008 1:18 PM PDT   0 recs

I'm with you on the idea

BUT, it IS done more than once (obviously twice if there are 2 shots) AND it is done while the player is shooting.  

Be loud, support the team, but don't distract the team!

You're right - it probably won't stop seeing as though the guys that do it probably won't see this...but maybe I can get down some change...


We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Mar 31, 2008 1:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The last time I looked...
I didn't see any rules on being yourself at games. Yea it may be annoying but thats just how the dude is. Instead of bitching on-line maybe someone should call the guy out and tell him to shut the f@#k up.  I wouldn't be surprised of someone on GSoM told me my signs were annoying, i'd rather hear it at a game and in my face.

...and it's like that! Coz' that's the way it is... Dubz!

by Tony.psd on Mar 31, 2008 1:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I was the one who started the chant..
and in the begining it was chanted more than once, but always before the player attempted the free throw shot. This is how it is when im at the games. Not sure if this chant goes on when i'm not there. if it does and they chant it while the player is shooting the actual free throw then you are right that it "can" effect the Warriors shot. I did realize it can be a distraction chanting it more than once so i went with one chant. this is how it would go: Player steps to line, dribbles, "make your free throws pleeze!" [ silence ]. Warrior Player shoots. [ swish ]. On the next free throw attempt it would be:

"do it againnnn...PLEEEEZE". [silence ]. Warrior Player shoots. [ swish ]

My point is, people yell "BRICK!" while players shoot. People yell out "YOU SUCK!" while players shoot. These players are professional NBA athletes. if they really got game, no kind of noise should distract them. KOBE BRYANT is able to make his free throws while his fans chant MVP! MVP! MVP! relentlessly and while he is shooting the free throw.

The chant is not a Mock by all means, because of course I want every Warrior to swish their free throws. It is more like a really loud request with good manners.

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 31, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude...
I can't believe that anyone thinks that the players are affected by what the fans say. I went to a game twenty years ago against the Rockets and my brother (who is a big Hakeem Olajuwon fan) yelled "brick" every time a Warrior went to the line. It was silent in the building and you could clearly hear him (a fact that was proven when we got home and watched the game we recorded - you could hear him on TV). Anyhow, I believe that still to this day it is the single best FT shooting day in Warrior history, something like 29-29.

It does not matter what fans do while pros play - thats why they are pros - including getting worked up by a stupid wave.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Mar 31, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

but then again...
I do believe that yelling at my television is an extremely effective way to motivate this team.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

by triplesix on Mar 31, 2008 3:05 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Amen to what you said triplesix.
And yes. The Warriors are motivated by YOU when you yell for them at the TV screen. You and the rest of the Warrior Heads Worldwide yelling at their tube.
Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 31, 2008 3:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually...
...I remember last year, Jason Richardson admitted in a radio interview that he struggles from the line because the crowd distracts him.

by Zack Vank on Mar 31, 2008 3:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ZZZZZzzz
zzzzZZZZZZZ.
Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 31, 2008 3:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

hm?...
Yeah, I know, right?

by Zack Vank on Mar 31, 2008 4:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

YOU'RE the "Make your ft's" guy?!?!
With the "I've been believin'" shirt? Lol. You're my hero man.

"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald

by WarriorForLife on Mar 31, 2008 3:00 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Um no
Let me say- I love the enthusiasm at the arena. I love it when people are standing on their seats yelling as loud as they can in rooting on the Dubs. I even love the thumping on the air vent in section 109 to keep a beat going. Again this ain't a library, this is the Roaracle baby!

But the Make Your Free Throws Pleeze chant and chanters are just flat out ridiculous. I wonder if the guy who starts it and those who follow have ever even played basketball. When I was in high school or middle school playing ball in not-so-packed arenas, if a bunch of people in the crowd were chanting/ heckling me as I was walking up to the free throw and trying to calm down to sink the shots, I'd probably piss in my pants. It's like these guys are taunting and heckling our own players. How silly is that?

I have no idea how you got that bizarre 90% stat of free throws made.  All I know is that the Warriors are 19th in the league in terms of FT% at 75.1%. Why would you try to distract them at home when they aren't a good FT shooting team? If people really believe that heckling your own players when they're shooting free throws with that inane chant led by a drunk guy in a whiny voice helps them out, I have to question how much they know about the game and how much they're just there to draw attention to themselves. I think at one point someone called him a "greedy fan" for only participating in chants he starts and refusing to get in on chants others in the arena begin. He's just seems so attention starved.

I go to Warriors games to watch the Warriors, root on my squad, and dish out high fives to everyone sitting near me. I DO NOT go to the games to hear some drunk guy slur his speech at the top of his lungs, provide his silly game narration, and try to be the star of the show. It's so annoying that I've had die hard Warriors friends in our seats who just couldn't stand it and wanted to move/ leave. It's just so obnoxious and annoys so many people in the section.

But the one thing I will say and something I say to Hash every time we're at the arena is at least this guy doesn't swear. If someone tells him not to distract the players and to quit being so obnoxious, he'll try to get all confrontational and throw out some fighting words, but to his credit the guy doesn't swear. I'm not sure why someone would consider that be a great accomplishment, but I'll throw that compliment out there in fairness.

I really do like the good people who sit in our section- the dad in front of us who always brings his family is really cool and into it- but the make your free throws guy and his bunch have really annoyed us and many others all season long. It's all good though, we're moving seats next season. I'm sure many others will be doing the same as well.

Real fans come to support the Warriors, not go to the Roaracle to try to be the show. I'm looking forward to sitting with even more real fans next year.

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 1, 2008 10:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Atma brother...
Sup man. I am the one who started the Make Your Free Throws chant and if you think its ridiculous then that's fine. "you are entitled to your opinion" as i continouosly have to repeat.

You said:
"I DO NOT go to the games to hear some drunk guy slur his speech at the top of his lungs, provide his silly game narration, and try to be the star of the show."

You have the right to be mad at me and be annoyed but I am not trying to BE THE STAR of the show and I am sorry to hear that alot of people in the section misinterpret me that way.

If you met me in person or knew me, I'm actually laid back and chill, but when I am at the Warriors Games... I am Loud. I'm actually a nice guy, friendly and I always do my best to be respectful to others. If those people think I am disrespecting them by being relentlessly loud and annoying...again i apologize for being obnoxious.

My point is that there shouldn't be a fixed agenda to cheer for the Warriors. It is a sporting event that fans are allowed to scream their lungs out and continuously.

The rules i try to follow are:  1) Say whatever the hell you want as long as you don't Hurt or Kill anyone and 2) Don't use profanity because there are Kids that attend the games. I aint even about violence and I'm all about PEACE.

As far as people calling me a "greedy fan", I think that is just stupid and doesn't represent me at all. Why do you think I chant 'LET'S GO PIZZA' ?

... because that's when most people get loud. Or usually in the fourth quarter when the climactic action occurs.

I want the fans to be louder than me and I don't need all this damn attention. I just happen to chant for the Warriors from beginning to end regardless what the score is and unfortunately people get the wrong idea that I am an attention wh@.re and selfish.

The Oakland Coliseum is considered the Roaracle and I have the freedom to cheer for the Dubs Loudly. For the 37th time, I am sorry it bothers the hell out of people.

You also said:
"for only participating in chants he starts and refusing to get in on chants others in the arena begin"

That is untrue. There are an abundant of  occassions when I wait for OTHERS TO START the 'LETS GO WARRIORS' chants or 'DE-FENSE' chants and THEN I participate. If there are other chants out there that i hear and like, i'll be down to scream my lungs out for it.

The only chant i didn't and STILL dont participate in is the BS chants. but I refuse to participate in that. If the fans want to do so then they are entitled to. I aint gonna say anything to them and whine. I just don't want to be a part of it. If my 8 year old nephew is with me, i'll tell him not to use that type of language. But that's about it. So if you want to hate on me for that non-participation then fine. THAT IS 100% TRUE.

I am sorry to hear you and everyone else that hates me are moving. I wished they would stay and not be bothered by one person or a group of people.

Like you, I also go to "Warriors games to watch the Warriors, root on my squad, and dish out high fives to everyone sitting near me." Unfortunately I also get too passionate about the Warriors and cheer too loudly giving others a bad impression of me. But you know..that's just Me. I'm a Warriors Freak. so what.

If you want to move to a more quiet section where they seem to cheer within a fixed agenda. Then fine. So be it. It seems like the other side is that way.

If you ever run into me at the game, you would see that I am not the inconsiderate bastard you think i am and far from your selfish perception you have of me.

Get to know the person before you judge them. Didn't your momma teach you that when you were younger?

Anyways, Go Warriors still.

Peace.

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 1, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You're missing the point potna
There is no personal ill-will. I'm not making judgments about your character or who you are off the court. I don't care how loud you are. Hey the louder Dub Nation is the better as far as I'm concerned. I think I've made that pretty clear.

What is wack is dumb chants that make no basketball sense. Making distracting noise and heckling your own players when they're shooting FT's- come on.

How about this- go outside and shoot some FT's. Do it when it's quiet and no one's distracting you. Then do it with a bunch of your boys doing that "Make your free throws please" chant behind the backboard. Tell me which which situation you'd rather be shooting free throws in.

I completely agree that there is no predefined way to root for your squad and there shouldn't be. If you've read my work you can probably tell I don't care the least bit for being conformist.

If you want to move to a more quiet section where they seem to cheer within a fixed agenda. Then fine. So be it. It seems like the other side is that way.

With all due respect that's a poor misreading of what I wrote. I like it when people are loud and the arena is hype.

I'm just not a fan of people heckling their own players (except Dunleavy- I kid. I kid.) and trying to challenge other fans. Let's not forget the countless number of times you've screamed at other fans in the section to pretty much do your chants or match your style. If someone wants to be quiet or just clap all night long that's fine. Doesn't make them less of a fan. What is annoying is taunting them for leaving or not participating in your chants. You can make up whatever story you want, but to tell you the truth this is the kind of stuff that provokes dumb fights in the stands amongst drunk fans. I'm happily surprised that nothing has broken out yet this season.

Again the volume ain't the problem, it's the low hoops IQ noise and silly narration of the game all night long from some guy who's had way too many cold ones and honestly doesn't know the game all that well. That's not exactly family show material or what I and tons of others in the section call a great time out, but hey- you're free to do whatever you want.

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 1, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

All good Atma..
i get your point. I went off tangent and got caught up in the emotion because I don't want people thinking the wrong thing about me.

You said:

"How about this- go outside and shoot some FT's. Do it when it's quiet and no one's distracting you. Then do it with a bunch of your boys doing that "Make your free throws please" chant behind the backboard. Tell me which which situation you'd rather be shooting free throws in."

I'd be all for that challenge. If I fail that proves I sure don't belong in the NBA. These players have made it to the highest level in professional sports. They should be able to zone themselves out from any distractions.

That's what any coach would tell you.

Could you say the same thing about Kobe and his fans when he is at the FT? Sometimes his fans relentlessly chant MVP MVP MVP while he shoots his FT's and he still is able to make them.

I understand what you are saying and maybe the MAKE YOUR FREE THROW chants goes all the way to when they are about to shoot the free throw. I have changed it to One chant way before they shoot the FT.

I started the chant last year in the playoffs and its prolly not gonna stop. I am the type that don't like to break tradition. i know you disagree with me but its not a mockery, i'm not trying to taunt our own players and  I feel like it helped. If I am wrong, then the Warriors need to learn how to zone out of distractions.

You also said:

"Let's not forget the countless number of times you've screamed at other fans in the section to pretty much do your chants or match your style." "

"or not participating in your chants."

For one thing, I never try to force people to do my chants. if they want to participate, then cool. If not. That's fine.

When have i said...'come on everybody! lets chant MY chant!!!!" me me me!

Never.

I have said "caw mon! get loud! cheer with me!"

I didn't mean "chant MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS".

I meant just get loud and cheer with me in general:  Go Warriors! lets go Warriors! we believe! whatever.

Another thing, I knew the Warriors didn't shoot 90% from the FT Line for the season. I was referring to the Times i Do go to the games, not the whole season. Yes...it was a really exaggerated number. So my bad on that part.

(that would be nice if they did shoot 90% as a team)

You are 100% correct when you said:

"If someone wants to be quiet or just clap all night long that's fine. Doesn't make them less of a fan. What is annoying is taunting them for leaving"

I do need to SHUT UP about that. People can leave whenever they want. It just bothers me when they do, but I don't have a say in that..so i REALLY do need to be quiet about that.

or when I yell out..."you guys are too quiet!" "STOP BEING SHY!!this aint No 8th grade dance!" etc.

You are right..it doesn't make them less of a fan if they are quiet, if they don't want to chant, or be loud. so YES i do need to SHUT UP.

I will work on that. I will quit with that crap and respect other people for their way of watching the game as I hope they can respect my way of watching the game.

If not, thats too bad but ill move on and get over it. As you said..the people that do have a problem with me or with other people that are obnoxious will be moving to a different section. So problem solved.

I too hope the section stays Violence-Free because it is RIDICULOUS to physically fight over a game.

I'm all about having fun at the games and that's why I do attend the games.

Peace.

Romes Mac Mojous

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Apr 1, 2008 2:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Atma has
it right on, its not the yelling.  Everyone loves when the Oracle is rockin and everyone is standing and screaming!  Its the random low hoops IQ and badgering that is just aggrevating and disrespectful.  

And the freethrow thing is just further proof of selfishness...  Does anyone really believe that its ok to tell the home team "get over it, learn to tune it out" because I want to keep yelling?? And then when an entire section worth of people are upset the fallback is always, "if you don't like it you can move".  Amazing...  Having to stand up because the person in front of you is standing is one thing.  But telling someone they have to change their seats because you want to yell "make your free throws please"??  

Some people just don't get it, its not about "you".  The long-winded responses here to Atma and everyone else...  Like everyone should be fascinated with why you think what you think, or want to hear you opinion about every single point..  Just chill out man...  It'll make your life easier.  

by in for life on Apr 1, 2008 7:44 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

+1
And the freethrow thing is just further proof of selfishness...  Does anyone really believe that its ok to tell the home team "get over it, learn to tune it out" because I want to keep yelling?? And then when an entire section worth of people are upset the fallback is always, "if you don't like it you can move".  Amazing...  Having to stand up because the person in front of you is standing is one thing.  But telling someone they have to change their seats because you want to yell "make your free throws please"??  

Thank you. I rest my case.

by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 1, 2008 9:04 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs