if webber is signed.. though someone is going to get their minutes cut..feelings are going to get  hurt1!

I really hope this isn't happening.  It would be fun to watch though...

something tells me this would be good.

why is it neccasary that c-webb runs the break like monta?

how many times does monta get on a break and pull out resulting in others to run up the court.. not all too much.

he doesnt need 30+ minutes to be effective so its not like he will get thrashed...

bring him in when it becomes a half court game or when an opposing 4 gets hot.

The Half Court playoff strategy finally makes sense through all this noise of Webber and Payton.  Could these two Vets be just using us in order to get better deals from the Celts or the like?  On a national stage, the Webber story would be excellent, even Chuck would have to approve, right?

Barnett always mentioned that Bill Russell never stepped past half court on a fast break.  He was to always defend the rim.  Imagine the outlet passes Webber would make to increase the Fast Break opportunities.  He could ignite us like Barnes can but stay back and defend the rim.

JB and Zack Vank also chimed in with these observations, so this blog really did add something to make sense of the outlandish rumors.  

Your Cathartic Warriors, where time and experience really does heal all wounds.  Webber is finally ready to fulfill his destiny with Nelson and we are ready to commence our historic run to a Championship.

Or maybe, Nellie did want to munch on some wings and wash it down with a cold Michelob.  This could be an excellent smoke screen to get Haslem.

To me it says that Mullin will not be making any trades. If you look at our roster, to get an impact guy we have to trade Harrington but that would break up the chemistry. By adding a veteran, Nellie will actually give Webber minutes. Our bench gets deeper. We now have a lost post backup. And our future remains the same. How else to we help this team if Mullin wants the core to stay? (Just talking, dont need 8 trade scenarios.) I like the move. Because the basketball gods have not been kind to us since his departure. Maybe this is the ok, ok, its all back in place moment that lets us get some breaks for awhile.

How're you doing?  Just a brilliant and beautiful post you made.  Just beautiful...  

You stated you almost cried when they traded CWebb all those years ago.  Well, I DID CRY!     The golden franchise was destroyed and it took years with the return of Nellie and the Trades bringing B Davis, AL Harrington, and C Jack to the Ws for them to reach the playoffs again.

I agree, it'll be special to reunite the two major players in the Warriors meltdown and how they could end their careers together with a championship.  I think both have major major regrets of what transpired though I had doubts about Webber ; but if CWebb signs this will confirm this.

Do you think it'll be like when the legendary Rick Barry returned to the Warriors from the ABA in the early '70's and all was forgiven between him and Franklin Mieuli.  Al Attles and the team welcomed him back with open arms!  And you know what happened a few years later in 1974-75!

Peace,
Kirk

How're you doing?  Just a brilliant and beautiful post you made.  Just beautiful...  

You stated you almost cried when they traded CWebb all those years ago.  Well, I DID CRY!     The golden franchise was destroyed and it took years with the return of Nellie and the Trades bringing B Davis, AL Harrington, and C Jack to the Ws for them to reach the playoffs again.

I agree, it'll be special to reunite the two major players in the Warriors meltdown and how they could end their careers together with a championship.  I think both have major major regrets of what transpired though I had doubts about Webber ; but if CWebb signs this will confirm this.

 This is so preposterous that Nellie might make it work!

Do you think it'll be like when the legendary Rick Barry returned to the Warriors from the ABA in the early '70's and all was forgiven between him and Franklin Mieuli.  Al Attles and the team welcomed him back with open arms!  And you know what happened a few years later in 1974-75!

Peace,
Kirk

disposing of the silly first

• GSW would not have beaten Dream, Drexler & Co. at their peak
• CWebb is not HOF
• we don't need CWebb to set screens for Monta, anyone on the current roster would do nicely if Nelson would just put in a play other than a pick & roll

seriously

CWebb is not a low post threat that would carry us offensively in a slower tempo'd playoff situation. Anyone who watched Sac saw that he was best at the elbow/high-post passing to cutters and using his midrange J. That fits his aging knees yet is a complete misfit for our team. He will be inside, with his defender, he will not demand a double team and he will not open up shooters as a result. He would fit well with a team like his former Pistons, in his hometown of Detroit, who are going to compete for the ECF and maybe a ring. Or maybe the Heat, replacing the role Alonzo Morning had and working off DWade. Regardless, with GSW he'd be a backup C to Andris, we'd still play small & run, and we're not going to WCF if that's our "big" move this month. If you are CWebb which way do you turn? Before you reply that he may not have the choice, ask yourself whether we really should want him if even Detroit doesn't sign him cheaply when his role is perfectly suited to the situation.

Nelson is to blame for not being able to manage CWebb's immaturity and maybe he's simply taking the opportunity to put regrets to rest over a cold beverage with his former player. Men of his age often do things like that.

CWebb of the past is not coming to save the present dubs, if he comes at all ... if this is the big move, I'm big time bumm'n

New to the blog, I love what you all have compiled here.  It is like a record of anguish I've personally endured by myself since RunTMC.  Now I know where my brothers are at.  

You've chronicled the Dirty Dozen already, no need to rehash the past.  And I think that is what is going on here for both coach and player.  For their own sakes they need this cure.  

If Webber does join, and takes the Dubs over the edge to a Championship, wouldn't it be like USA Hockey Team beating the USSR for us, long anguished Warrior fans?  We would NEVER forget where we were when it happened.

Well here's a mix of C-Webb in '06-'07...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292Qr--fg8E&feature=related

I think it would be a great low risk option for us, as long as Webber is agreeable to a small role and isn't expecting to be our starting power forward.  Our only concern would be disrupting our team chemistry and learning to play together. The upside is that it can generate more national attention for us to market our team. Let's hope he's been working out and has something to prove.

why are the dubs so interested in old people who can't play anymore?

I remember the ultimate team... it makes me sad to think we were close to being a consistent playoff team.  Think about it.  We had a starting 5 of:
PG:  Tim Hardaway
SG:  Latrell Sprewell
SF:  Chris Mullin
PF:  Chris Webber
C:   Rony Seikely
and a bench of
Victor Alexander (pretty smooth 3 pt shot from the top of the key)
Chris Gatling (energizer off the bench who rebounded at a fairly high clip)
Keith Jennings (great pg off the bench... also provided energy)
Ricky Pierce (a three pt threat off the bench... seasoned veteran)
Clifford Rozier/Carlos Rogers (both rookie bigs who could step in and provide adequate D while running the floor)
and whatever free agents would have came in.  I agree w/ Atma... We seriously could have continued to make noise in the playoffs and with an upset or two, possbily end up in the finals or w/ a championship.  Sure it was a pipe dream... but it did end w/ the trading of Chris Webber (why couldn't he let go of Billy Owens?)

Now, I truly believe that if we drop Hudson and sign Webber to a small contract for the rest of the season, that it would be far more helpful that it would be hurtful.  First off, we already have a vocal lockerroom leader in Baron Davis, so this talk about breaking down the lockerroom morale should not be a factor, especially at this stage of his career.  He understands what it takes to win (all the years in Sac help) and he CAN pose as a consistent threat in the half court setting.  

I know he wont run the floor, but you saw what happened in the Jazz series in last year's playoffs; their ability to keep a strong guard on Baron Davis while having the ability to run an adequate transition defense was enough to slow down our run & gun style to the half court setting on a consistent basis.  Webber can definately provide us with a big who can stretch the floor and pass the ball well without being a poor defensive liability.  

Another factor is our slew of line-up possibilties.  If Webber doesn't fit into the game plan, then we have the players necessary to not have to play him.  Nelson should be smart enough to recognize his strengths and weaknesses and know when he should be in the game and when not to be in the game.  If Beans mins are inconsistent, Webbers can be too.  

I definately would welcome Webber back to the bay... I'd just expect a little bit of "John Starks to Chicago" treatment to occur in the beginning.  

For a few days now. Someone at my work bought a Record Bee and I saw the story in the paper and I have been mulling it over.

This is my take. After some consideration I would embrace the signing of Webber.

The team could use another low post player and I don't think that can be disputed. The reason Webber did not resign with Detroit is that Detroit wanted to play and see what some of their younger players could do. With the Warriors at this point in time our younger bigs are not getting substantial time. If either POB, Perovic or Wright were getting about 12 minutes a game a night and doing well my opinion would be different. But since they are not I would welcome Webber to the team because it is not like it is going to negatively affect the development of our youth any different then it is now.

POB is for all intense and purposes gone next year. Perovic I have no idea, I was not able to watch the Bucks game, but being he only played one game it is obvious he is not ready now. And Brandon Wright has not gotten consistent time this season as he needs to bulk up.

Being these young guys can't get any playing time early in the season, what makes it seem that as the season progresses that would be any different? As the regular season comes to a close, and the games get tougher as teams via for playoff position and in the playoffs I do not see them getting any more time. Remember last season down the stretch that Nellie shortened his bench? We didn't see as much of Kelenna for instance. He seemed to shorten his bench down the stretch and the playoffs to guys that he knew he could believe in.

By adding Webber when he goes to the shorten the bench routine his rotation will be one player deeper then before because of Webber's veteran status and that he has been there before. If they bring in Webber and release Troy Hudson it seems to be a solid move to me. I'm not expecting miracles from Webber but I think he will be able to find a niche on this team in a positive way.

Now on the flip side if the Warriors were to sign GP and release Watson I would be very upset. And the only reason that my view there would be different is that Watson as a young player is playing and playing very well. No need to bring in an older vet for a younger player that is producing.

I think that Webber signing will give the Warriors a little more attention around the league. If a 'name'(I did not see impact production) player decides to come and join the team then it might make more potential FA's give the Warriors a second look. Their are certain cities and teams that FA's look to go to, I do not expect a Webber or GP signing to change the big name franchises like Lakers, Miami, New York, etc for FA destinations but it might make 2nd and 3rd tier FA's more receptable to give us a look.

So in summary, I would welcome CWebb because he would not negatively affect a young players development any more so then it is now. He would give the team one more player that Nellie would trust when he begins to shorten his bench, and Webber could potentially give us an added dimension to our team that we do not have currently if used in the right way.

to play in the low post anymore. Even so I think he could help this team, he could backup both the 5 and the 4, while bringing some sweet passing to the frontcourt. This move would help the Dubs, but I'm not sure if it is worth the risk of messing up the chemistry.

it is a way bigger upgrade from thud as jp said, and maybe he could help develop some of our younger guys like wright orsomething. there are multiple possibilities of how we can play him now even with his weak knees

...if he's down to be here. I think his passing ability probably makes up for the diminshed athleticism. He'd also have to take a clear backseat to Baron and Jackson as far as leadership is concerned, so I'm not worried about chemistry. Webber will give us a guy who can cut up a zone inside with his passing, which I think we can all agree would be helpful.

we are projecting our hopes and delusions upon CWebb?

posting videos from years ago, when even an announcer proclaims that he's "turned back the clock on that move"

projecting CWebb's passing ability into an offense we don't run

projecting CWebb as a low post offensive presence

some claim he'd be an asset on defense

deluding ourselves to think he will come and develop our young players?!

rationalizing that CWebb would be better than THud - yes, so would anyone suggested on this site since THud is done

from a fan perspective would it be "interesting" - sure, but from a basketball perspective are we any better as club with CWebb as he is now???

the only thing that CWebb would add is a barrier to do something meaningful with the TPE that could make us a serious threat in the playoffs and maybe even beyond

We must expect more from the front office than this - adding CWebb now is the equivalent of giving Mullin the ultimate cop-out, Nelson too for that matter (if we don't make the playoffs or do well, think CWebb will escape blame?)

we have the space and vaunted flexibility via the trade exception from the JRich trade to make a significant upgrade - let's hope for a better option than this ...