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2005-2006 REPORT CARD: Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell

These report cards aren't only for the players, coaches, and general managers, we include the whole organization. Up next we have the owner Chris Cohan and the president, Robert Rowell. Often times we rip the players, the coaches, but not enough responsibility gets placed on the owner of the franchise. 12 years of losing. You've been the owner of the franchise with the longest current playoff drought. How can you do this to us loyal fans? The only constant across the entire streak has been the owner. Hint. Hint. Everything else has been swapped out, players have gone on to be All-Stars and contributors to winning teams, coaches have gone on to become successful at other places, so what does it take to get rid of the owner?


Cohan and Rowell talking about how they're going to extract more money from the fans. (Photo: nba.com)


Dun and Cohan? (Photo: sportsbusinesssims.com)

Del at WarriorsWorld.net wrote a great article on why the Warriors are a bad investment

Cohan on the other hand strikes me more as the calculating logical owner who sees dollars returned and ROI when he looks at his players.  I can only imagine his blood pressure skyrockets every time he sees Adonal Foyle. The equivalent in a fans life would be driving a 1975 AMC Pacer and knowing you can't sell it for what you owe on it, and have 4 years of payments left. Ouch. Cohan,  a successful businessman, wealthy but not Mark Cuban, or Larry Ellison wealthy, leverages much of his fortune, takes out loans, and buys the team. Why?  Most of what is written about Cohan's motives all lead back to money as being what drives him.

Also, check out this article on bringing a team to San Jose and how Robert Rowell seems threatened and scared by the idea.

Unfortunately, no youtube clips of the clowns. On to the grades...

Overall Grade: F

Atma Brother #1 (Grade: F)
Clowns I tell you.

DJ Fuzzylogic (Grade: F)
The best thing in the Cohan era was landing the All-Star game in 99 and being the place where Vince Carter rejuvenated the dunk contest.  Other than that, Cohan and Rowell are the biggest swindlers in the NBA.

Fantasy Junkie (Grade: F)
The Cohan era has seen one playoff series, the first year he was here. So basically, it wasn't his team out there. 12 years in a row we've been in the lottery. Props to the Warrior fans for staying loyal to the franchise after so much losing. Now they're raising ticket prices? You'll get none of my money this year, I'm not going to any games I have to pay for.

Hash (Grade: F)
Cuban. We're waiting. You can crash at my place while you're searching for a place out here.

YaoButtaMing (Grade: F) If you can't make the playoffs for 12 years, then you do not deserve anything better then a big fat F, period!


What grade do you give the Warriors upper management, Cohan and Rowell, for last year?


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Anything above an F+
I will be shocked if anyone can come up with a good reason why Cohan and Rowell deserve anything higher than an F+.

93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 23, 2006 11:40 PM PDT   0 recs

Money Talks
I've been thinking about the topic Del brings up in this article.  I can't remember what I read that started me on this idea weeks ago but I think it might have been talked about months ago on GSoM.  Fantasy Junkie has the right idea.

I think we should call for a team boycott.  That sounds harsh, but its been pointed out and proven that we are some of the most loyal fans in the league, and as long as the owners are making money on a losing team they have no incentive to improve.  I hate LA teams and their fair-weather fans but even the Clippers have put together a winning squad.  The Knicks seem to be the east coast version of us but they complain louder than any fans in the league.

Maybe I'm out of line here but if Del is right and money is what drives Cohan, we've got to put our money where our mouth is.  I've got more to say on the issue...but what do you guys think?

My grade: F

J.cob -greatest accomplishment: coming up with the Golden State of Mind name.

by jdotcob on Aug 24, 2006 2:22 AM PDT   0 recs

Been thinking
Actually man, Fantasy Junkie and I were talking about it yesterday and feel the same way. Definitely post your ideas in a diary to start the brainstorming.

We've got a clean air/ decrease Cohan's wallet idea that we're working through. We'll post the idea in your diary once it's better formulated.


93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 24, 2006 8:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

D----
As much as I want the guy to sell out and go away, he upgraded the facilities and spent money, stupidly, but he spent money.  

That puts him ahead of some other owners on a year to year basis so I gave him a D------.

What killing us is 12 years of "D"s. Most other franchises change hands after sucking so badly.  Over 12 years he gets a F- for putting out a product that is consistently bad.

We should demand an NBA franchise in San Jose.  Activity to bring a competitor to the Bay Area would depress the GSW's value and force his hand while offering us fans and local billionaires a possible option.  

by joe sez on Aug 24, 2006 5:07 AM PDT   0 recs

Money is no object
Ownership did not restrict our GM from handing out big extension$, and if we are to believe the Woes were serious suitors for Harrington, ownership has not yet balked at acquiring more high priced players.

The "fault" lies in hiring - who have they hired in their organization that has produced for the organization? Is there anyone? Even in the draft the notable successes seem outnumbered by the numerous whiffs.

by hardcore on Aug 24, 2006 6:39 AM PDT   0 recs

Big money
The past two years the upper management has reversed course and started signing dollars. But remember- this was after a decade of being near the bottom in league payroll. Even now however they're still making bottom-line moves (dumping Fisher's salary) and have yet to go over the cap to try to build a winner.

Upper management is still hiring unqualified guys on the cheap.


93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 24, 2006 8:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Tax vs. cap
The Warriors are always over the salary cap.  This makes it hard to add players.  They haven't shown a willingness to go over the luxury tax, which is a very different thing.  Since they are over the cap, they can't simply go out and overbid on other teams' players.  The way they could spend more money would be to extend and give raises to their current players. Given that these guys haven't won yet, why would they want to do that?  Staying under the lux tax threshold until they start winning seems like a very wise move.

But none of this applies to decisions on GMs and coaches, where it seems like management isn't willing to spend.  Mullin was an internal hire with no experience save an apprenticeship with a guy who wasn't any good himself.  Saint was hired why?  The coaching decisions have always been questionable.  They've kept guys because of contracts when they weren't getting the job done. They've used 'solutions' (like Saint coaching) to save money.  When there was a sign of some success with Muss, even if he had to go, they should have followed up with someone with a track record, not a marketing scheme.

by jae on Aug 24, 2006 9:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Experiences
Chris Mullin worked two years under Garry St Jean.  He then took over the Warriors. Was he experienced enough? Maybe not but the problem maybe the kind of player he was and not executive experience or lack of.

The Bulls GM John Paxson rebuilt the franchise but was just a broadcaster with the Bulls until he took over as GM.  The Pistons' Joe Dumars' Bio doesn't indicate he had much experience prior to taking over.  Joe took disgarded players and shaped a championship team.  Avery Johnson was in his first year.

Johnson, Paxson and Dumars played point (Joe started as SG and PG) and were all defensive minded players.
Mullin was a SF and not a defensive player.  The mistake, as I see it, is expecting a SF who was a high percentage shooter but didn't set up the offense in as GM.  Mullin doesn't have the player's background to be a coach.

As for Cohan selecting St Jean, Garry had prior experience with the Kings.  It was a bad choice but at he had some experience.

St. Jean has been the head coach of two NBA teams. From 1992 through 1997, he coached the Sacramento Kings. He later became the general manager of the Golden State Warriors, and in 2000 he doubled as a head coach after P.J. Carlesimo was fired. In 2006, the Warriors began to give out the "Garry St. Jean Award" for most the player who "best demonstrates ineptitude on and off the court." The 2006 winner was Mike Dunleavy Jr.

Ouch.

by joe sez on Aug 24, 2006 7:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I know you're all thinking it.......
.....doesn't this sound like the academy award winning, MAJOR LEAGUE!!!!!!

If we get good, management is likely to move us to Poland or Iceland. So either, we enjoy sucking, or we're gonna get shipped out!

Top 7 of '07 draft = Warriors only chance of being good over the next 5 years

by jgodoski on Aug 24, 2006 11:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Admittedly...
I admit, my grade was not solely based on last year, but a frustration of 12 years of ineptitude.

Basically, he's not hiring qualified people. Similar to what JAE said, every hire has emphasized saving money rather than going after the very best. That's why we end up with the inexperienced and unqualified people running the basketball operations. Muss was signed on the cheap and fits in the inexperienced and unqualified, but he defied those labels and did an excellent job. That was probably the only hire that turned out well. I think that the Warriors may have just got lucky with that. Every other hire, to my knowledge, was unsuccessful.

by Fantasy Junkie on Aug 24, 2006 11:21 AM PDT   0 recs

F++++++++++++++
I give the "plus" for upgrading the facilities and getting the all star game here in 2000. Otherwise these guys have been a joke and done nothing for the franchise. I'm sure Cohan and Rowell would respond that we don't know what their job entails and that there's a lot more to it, but I know one thing : 12 years of ineptitude and no playoff appearances = no cash from me this season.
I love when the sales "team" for the W's calls me to talk ticket plans. I laugh at them and I'm pretty hard on them. It's nothing personal, their just doing their jobs, but they get the brunt of my frustration. I asked one guy how he could be serious when he asked me to get a ticket plan, and said not to call me until they can put a better product on the floor.
I want results before I spend another dollar on the W's or any other W's paraphenalia. I've been kicked and taken advantage of for too long now!!

by goldenstatefan on Aug 24, 2006 2:30 PM PDT   0 recs

Surprise!
I give him an A+. The reason I give him an A+ is that he has been able to keep this team for 12-13 years, without getting to the playoffs, and still make money. He has taken advantage of the fairweather California fans. With this taking advantage of the fans, he has also been able to keep from attracting attention to the badness, as the fans aren't as loud as New York. The team isn't largely popular outside of San Fransisco, either. He doesn't care if the team wins, or if he does, he cares as much as he hopes that his frozen pizza doesn't get overcooked. All he cares is that the fans keep coming, and he can keep them coming and still making money by instilling false hope. If his team makes the playoffs, its all icing on the cake to him, but definately not a #1 priority. He has done a A+ job of being an owner, aka making money.
LARRY JOHNSON LIKES TO SLAM ARRRR!!!!

by Zorgon on Aug 24, 2006 3:58 PM PDT   0 recs

you're right Zorgon
he is making money.

Donald Sterling has got to be chris cohan's mentor.

I give cohan an F, and Roswell an F+

I'm not a big fan of boycotts. It could lead to something unanticipated ...

I would like to see noise in the SF Chron, Trib, CC Times, and of course here, that would pressure cohan to sell the team (with commitments to keep it in Oakland).

Any one read Chad Ford's account on the Harrington deal?
This is how good management works:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&id=2558341

"It's not shocking to hear the words "great trade" when the team attached to the other end of the deal is the Atlanta Hawks.

The Pistons heard it when they stole Rasheed Wallace from the Hawks at the trade deadline in 2004 -- a move that gave them the NBA title. The Suns heard it (albeit belatedly) when they got two first-round draft picks and Boris Diaw for Joe Johnson last summer.

But in the case of the recently consummated Al Harrington trade, I'm letting Hawks GM Billy Knight off the hook. It wasn't Knight's incompetence that made this a great deal for the Pacers. It was the brilliant maneuvering of the Pacers' front office that made this deal, in my book, the best move of the summer.

While the Bulls and Hornets made splashier signings in July with the acquisitions of Ben Wallace and Peja Stojakovic, respectively, those transactions had their share of thorns.

For the Pacers, this one came up all aces. Here's why:

1. Harrington pushes the Pacers to the next level.
There were a lot of interesting signings and trades this summer, but how many of them clearly pushed a team into a different level of playoff contention?

Wallace's addition to Chicago may have that effect. However, the Bulls still have enough question marks that it's unclear exactly how big a push they'll get. To make Wallace's contract worth the expenditure, the Bulls will have to reach the Eastern Conference finals. He might get them there (and beyond), but I'm not sold.

Stojakovic will add a few W's to the Hornets' win column, but how many? The best-case scenario is that they are a seventh or eighth seed in the West (not sure that's worth $62 million).

But Harrington puts the Pacers back in contention in the East, in part because the Pacers didn't have to give up much to get him. You can argue that they ended up giving up Stojakovic (or, by extension, Ron Artest) to acquire the trade exception that landed Harrington, but given Artest's bad behavior and Stojakovic's injury history, I'd take Harrington (and his cheaper deal) any day.

What makes Harrington work in Indiana is twofold. One is his familiarity with the team. He'll be able to step right in and fit in with his teammates and head coach Rick Carlisle's schemes. Two, his versatility gives the Pacers a number of options on the front line. They can play Jermaine O'Neal at the five, Harrington at the four and a combo of Danny Granger and Marquis Daniels at the three. Or they can play Jeff Foster in the middle, move O'Neal to the four and put Harrington at the three depending on matchups.

He also gives the Pacers something else they desperately need, a reliable second scoring option that doesn't need the spotlight. Harrington will be cast perfectly in a supporting role in Indiana alongside O'Neal.

When you factor in the Pacers' other additions this summer -- Daniels, Darrell Armstrong, Maceo Baston, Shawne Williams and James White -- the Pacers are more athletic, more versatile and deeper than they've been the past few years.

In my mind, the Pacers not only made the best move of the summer, they had the best summer, overall, of any team in the NBA.

2. They didn't overpay.
The Pacers got a relative steal, nailing down Harrington on a four-year, $35 million deal. By the market's ridiculous standards, that's a huge bargain.

Coming into the offseason Harrington was ranked as the third- or fourth-best free agent available. Wallace got $60 million over four years. Stojakovic got $62 million over five. Nene, coming off a year on the DL, got $60 million over six years. Jason Terry walked away with a six-year, $50-million deal. Even guys such as Mike James, Nazr Mohammed and Vladimir Radmanovic pulled down $30 million.

To get Harrington at roughly $25 million less than everyone thought he'd get goes down as the coup of the summer. Given owners' increasing unwillingness to pay the luxury tax, cap flexibility is king. Landing a talent such as Harrington on the cheap (as opposed to overpaying like almost every other team in the league did with free agents this summer) is a rarity these days.

As it stands, even after signing Harrington, the Pacers are still millions under the luxury tax threshold and will be for the next three years. After that, they'll get significant cap flexibility again. A three-year run -- that's what every team dreams of -- and the Pacers could have it without making a significant signing to their team.

3. They outsmarted the competition.
Every step along the way, the Pacers' front office of Larry Bird, Donnie Walsh and David Morway was a little smarter than everyone else it was negotiating against.

The Pacers started this summer by wisely declining to go overboard to re-sign Stojakovic. They knew that criticism would be harsh. "They lost Ron Artest for nothing!" was the cry throughout much of the national and local media.

But the Pacers had a plan. They just didn't clue us in until the deal finally happened.

Stojakovic was 29-years old. The Hornets were willing to pay him for five years to the tune of $62 million. That would've been a millstone around the Pacers' neck that they would've never recovered from.

So, the team went back to the Hornets and asked for a sign-and-trade to get a whopping $7.5 million exception. To my knowledge it's the largest trade exception in the history of the NBA. The cost to the Pacers? Roughly 200 grand.

The result? The Pacers, who were way over the cap, suddenly had the equivalent of $7.5 million in cap room. The Bulls and Hornets, two teams that had significant room, had already spent theirs. The Bobcats and Hawks, the other two teams that had lots of cap space, weren't going to spend theirs.

That left the Pacers as the only team in the league that could facilitate one more big signing. By then, they already knew who their target would be -- Harrington.

Atlanta didn't want to pay him and Harrington was loyal to Indiana after it had granted his trade demand two summers ago. Harrington learned that being the "go-to guy" on a bad team was overrated and wanted to win again. His relationship with everyone in Indiana was strong, in part, because the Pacers treated him so well the first time.

It was a deal that was going to happen, one way or the other. We wrung our hands over the on-again, off-again deal for the past month but the truth was always the same. As long as the Hawks were refusing to take back players in a trade and Harrington wanted more than a mid-level exception, there was only one team in the league that could make a deal happen -- the Pacers.

While the Hawks demanded an extra $3 million in cash, the Pacers stuck to their guns. When Harrington demanded a six-year, $57-million deal, the Pacers held firm at four years, $35 million.

All along they knew something that no one else in the league seemed to understand -- no one was going to come close to giving the Hawks or Harrington a better deal.

This type of smart management and negotiation may be commonplace in the business world, but in the NBA it's rare to find a front office that understands the intricacies of the system and the market the way Walsh, Bird and Morway did.

So when I see the Pacers' front office called "class clowns" in the Indianapolis Star I have to vehemently disagree. It's the exact opposite. They were the proverbial "smartest guys" in the room.

For a team everyone was writing off at the start of the summer, the Pacers are now in the same class as the Pistons, Bulls and Nets -- scratching at the door of the Heat for the Eastern Conference title.

There are still questions, certainly. But there are a lot fewer than there were six weeks ago.

If the old Jermaine O'Neal shows up ... if Jamaal Tinsley can stay healthy ... if Rick Carlisle will submerge his worst instincts and let this very athletic team run ... the Pacers have as good a shot as any team to play in the Eastern Conference Finals."

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

" Sleepy Floyd is Superman!!!"

by CoachBarry on Aug 24, 2006 6:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Where else but Oakland/BayArea?
The Warriors are not going to move out of the Bay Area.  Name a better market than the Bay Area.  SJ alone is the 10th largest US city.

If a new owner move the team, it would be to SF or SJ and the Oakland facility isn't bad.  Any moron taking the team out of town to, say, Oaklahoma City, would trigger a owner knife fight for the rights to move a team into this huge sports market.

If ticket prices for a losing squad are too high then don't go for the sake of the poor economics.  See a Shark game.

by joe sez on Aug 24, 2006 7:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Boycotting/ Quotes
I'm not a big fan of boycotts. It could lead to something unanticipated ...

I would like to see noise in the SF Chron, Trib, CC Times, and of course here, that would pressure cohan to sell the team (with commitments to keep it in Oakland).

I am a big fan of boycotts, but for some reason I think might be the wrong strategy here. Sports teams are a little different. Don't worry- we're researching some ideas on something that might actually work. EVERYONE feel free to post your own ideas in a diary.

COHAN MUST SELL.

Also, let's all try to just quote the parts of articles that are relevant. I hate to steal someone's whole article. It's the Internet. It's all about linking and giving credit where credit's due.

Here's how to make quotes look like quotes: http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/special/posting#quoting


93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 24, 2006 8:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

sorry 'bout that
I know the rules, but I got all worked up after I read the article.

won't happen again!

Holla!!

" Sleepy Floyd is Superman!!!"

by CoachBarry on Aug 24, 2006 9:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

No prob Coach
Always fun to read your posts!

93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 24, 2006 9:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

...yeah.
This is the one topic everyone agrees on. Cohan sucks.

F

by John Patrick on Aug 24, 2006 7:24 PM PDT   0 recs

But if you grade on expectations...
Cohan lived up to everyone's expectations.  We expect him to be an incompetent owner who seems unable to bring in the right people to steer the ship.  We get it.  He acheived everyone's expectations of failure.

by jae on Aug 24, 2006 10:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Looking for more inside info
So, there's no argument that 12 years of ineptitude equals an F.  This management team has flat out failed.

However, in the interest of figuring out the answers, I want to dig a little deeper.

A couple of rules for this investigation:

  1. Let's assume they're not going to sell
  2. Let's be the big man and give them some benefit of the doubt, wherever we can possibly find it.
  3. I'm going to start in the post-Sprewell era, because there isn't even a benefit of the doubt before then...they flat ruined the team in the manner they handled the Nelson/CWebb issue.  I loved Nellie and I wished CWebb wasn't a primadonna, but the sad fact was you needed CWebb more than you needed Nellie at that time.  Not only did we lose CWebb...but that led to Sprewell's discontent...and we know what happened from there.  We'll call those the Dark Ages....and they're not even worth investigating.
So let's look at the team post-Sprewell, and try to give this guy some credit if we can find it:

So, through his own fault, he's got the most poisoness team atmosphere in the league...but let's say he finally woke up and realized he needs to just hire good people and write the checks and get out of the way.

He realizes no free agent in their right mind would sign with the Warriors unless it was ridiculous money (a la Foyle), so he thinks like Eddie Debartolo and says let me make this place more comfortable for my players outside of their salaries.  He builds the new practice facility.  I think the chartered plane is pretty good too.  So, can't fault him too much there.

Now, his MAIN job is to hire a good GM and let the GM do his thing.  We'd complain if the owner interfered.  So, the question is why didn't that happen.  I don't remember the exact chain of events...but at some time people like Jerry West were available.  Why couldn't he get those guys?

That's what I want to know.  I was hoping you guys could ask Ric Bucher, Jenny Hu, Marcus Thompson.  What's the inside scoop around the league on why no good potential GM would want the Warriors job.  I mean, maybe nobody could would take that job for ANY money because they know that they couldn't get any free agents to come there?  Or, maybe they don't like Cohan.  If so, I'm curious what they don't like about him.  Was he really known as a meddler at that time? I had read several years ago from one of the writers that Cohan had really learned to stay out of the basketball side of things.  Is that true?

Now, let's talk about hiring Mullin.  Can you really honestly say that was a horrible idea at the time?  I know it's been said above that you can't compare him to Joe Dumars or Paxson because of his position.  That's not a bad thought..but that could also just be hindsight thinking.  I've heard Mully talk about basketball...and he loves to talk about the "little things", like how running off-ball is such a good thing even if you don't get the ball, because it at least keeps your defenseman occupied so he can't help on your teammates.  I think he knows the game very well.  Also, in terms of Mullin's grades, I think I might rip him more for his drafts than for his (re)signings (except Dunleavy...no excuse for that).  You have to ask yourself who is coming to the Warriors by their own choice?  Nobody.  Sorry to say, but nobody wants to play here.  And this team had been like the Clips where everybody played out their rookie contract (or contract they were traded here with) and went on elsewhere.  When Mully signed all these guys to long term contracts, maybe he knew he was overpaying a bit for now...but maybe he was saying "look, basketball is not just about talent, but about teamwork and effort.  like it or not, you guys are stuck together for the next 4-5 years...don't think you get to play out the year and go somewhere else....you guys need to stick together and win if you want to have fun in the NBA"  

I don't like some of these moves on the surface any more than you guys do...but what choices do you really think they have?  

Again, I'm no apologist for Cohan.  He gets an F for sure.  In fact, I can't believe I'm writing these comments in this column because I don't want to make it look like i'm defending him. But for the life of me, I'm trying to understand what it is (i think simply saying "he's cheap" is the quick, easy answer) because I want the Warriors to get better...and I want to know what my real choices would be for improving the team at this point if I was owner.  

Again, I'd be interested in getting some insight from the NBA writers.

by TMC Forever on Aug 25, 2006 9:07 AM PDT   0 recs

Ask and You Shall Receive
That's what I want to know.  I was hoping you guys could ask Ric Bucher, Jenny Hu, Marcus Thompson.  What's the inside scoop around the league on why no good potential GM would want the Warriors job.  I mean, maybe nobody could would take that job for ANY money because they know that they couldn't get any free agents to come there?  Or, maybe they don't like Cohan.  If so, I'm curious what they don't like about him.  Was he really known as a meddler at that time? I had read several years ago from one of the writers that Cohan had really learned to stay out of the basketball side of things.  Is that true?

We'll definitely look into this when we get a chance. A lot of it might have to with all those infamous Cohan lawsuits:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/02/10/SP74259.DTL

Now, let's talk about hiring Mullin.  Can you really honestly say that was a horrible idea at the time?  I know it's been said above that you can't compare him to Joe Dumars or Paxson because of his position.  That's not a bad thought..but that could also just be hindsight thinking.  I've heard Mully talk about basketball...and he loves to talk about the "little things", like how running off-ball is such a good thing even if you don't get the ball, because it at least keeps your defenseman occupied so he can't help on your teammates.  I think he knows the game very well.  Also, in terms of Mullin's grades, I think I might rip him more for his drafts than for his (re)signings (except Dunleavy...no excuse for that).  You have to ask yourself who is coming to the Warriors by their own choice?  Nobody.  Sorry to say, but nobody wants to play here.  And this team had been like the Clips where everybody played out their rookie contract (or contract they were traded here with) and went on elsewhere.  When Mully signed all these guys to long term contracts, maybe he knew he was overpaying a bit for now...but maybe he was saying "look, basketball is not just about talent, but about teamwork and effort.  like it or not, you guys are stuck together for the next 4-5 years...don't think you get to play out the year and go somewhere else....you guys need to stick together and win if you want to have fun in the NBA"  

At the time I thought the Mullin hiring was strange (he was groomed for the job by St Jean?), but how much worse could it be than St. Jean? I don't disagree with the rationale- a team should grow together and needs stability- but the people he has chosen have been ridiculous. I will contend that St. Jean's later years as the Warriors' GM were better than Mullin's first 2.


93 'til Infinity: The Warriors' playoff drought?

by Atma Brother ONE on Aug 25, 2006 11:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Priceless
That article is EXACTLY what I was looking for.  The guy is a freakin' jerk.  Obviously, the answer to my question is that not too many people would want to work in this organization and get treated like that.  Man, we're screwed if that's the case.  

I would love an update to this article...and more from the perspective of why good outside people wouldn't want to work here.  I remember SI did an article on Donald Sterling a few years back because the Clips had been so pathetic.  They really exposed him good (and I've heard Tom Tolbert tells stories about him too).  Maybe it's time we suggest one of our favorite writers to get something published on Cohan's destruction of the Warriors.  I think our epic run of ineptitude warrants it.

by TMC Forever on Aug 25, 2006 4:26 PM PDT   0 recs

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Baron remembers the Bay in YB blog update
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Question: If Dubz Get Brand, then what will Baron do?
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Where We Go From Here- And Why Baron Leaving Was Good
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IDEA: Warriors Trade Al Harrington for Vince Carter....
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